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Health Care Town Hall Meetings: Debate or Debacle?

Violence escalates at meetings, distracting from the actual issue at hand

Sixty percent of television broadcasts last week was news coverage about health care reform, and the majority of that coverage was about the town hall meetings being held throughout the last few weeks. This statistic is not much of a surprise, considering the drama that is erupting at these town hall meetings which have gone from a bit of a ruckus to borderline violent.

The original goal of these town hall meetings was to facilitate a healthy debate (no pun intended) on reform and a chance to answer the questions of those concerned for what the new legislation would mean to them. Now, thanks to continuing protests, the goal is simply to get through the unharmed.

In Tampa, Florida U.S. Rep. Kathy Casto was trying to discuss health care at a town hall meeting while angry protesters screamed, yelled and pounded on windows until the police were called to settle the unruly crowd. A fight broke out inside the meeting.

One aide described the Service Employers International Union as being "deluged" with calls after some conservative outlets reported they had been attempting to assault protesters of the health care bill at town hall meetings. Threats went so far as to say, "I suggest you tell your people to calm down, act like American citizens, and stop trying to repress people's First Amendment rights...that, or you all are gonna come up against the Second Amendment."

In New Hampshire, NBC news showed footage of a protester with an unconcealed and licensed weapon. A man with a gun in plain view while waiting for President Obama to host a town hall meeting, and, according to the chief of police, the gun was registered to the man and because he was protesting on private property (a nearby church), he was within his right to be there.

In Philadelphia, Senator Arlen Specter and Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius were booed and jeered and screamed at in close range.

In Florida Representative David Scott, a Blue Dog Democrat and member of the Congressional Black Caucus, accused protesters for hijacking his town hall meeting. On Tuesday he found a four-foot swastika painted outside one of his district offices.

These incidents beg the question of how much further are these protests going to go before someone becomes seriously injured or worse, killed?

It is clear that the organized protests are not there to debate health care but to shut down any conversation or chance of compromise. This is a shame because statistics show that it’s a debate we need to have and that the health care system is in desperate need of a change.

According to the site HealthCare Problems.org, close to 50 million Americans do not have health insurance, while another 25 million are underinsured. For those who do have health insurance, the typical family health insurance plan costs $12,000 a year or more. And in general for the country as a whole, health care expenditures in the United States exceed $2 trillion a year. In comparison, the federal budget is $3 trillion a year.

The underinsured are those who have health insurance but still struggle to pay their health care bills. Many underinsured Americans are faced with rising health care premiums, deductibles, and co-payments, as well as limits on coverage for various services or other limits and excluded services that can increase out-of-pocket expenses. The number of people who are underinsured has grown 60 percent to 25 million over the past four years.

Those statistics are truly only the tip of the iceberg. So how can anyone debate that the system is not flawed? Through myths and untruths and a biased media that is taking advantage of the fact most people have not read the bill.

Most of the talking points made by protesters of the bill are easily corrected after simply reading the bill. MoveOn.org gave a breakdown of not just the most common talking points against the bill, but where you can find the actual truth in the bill itself. Not only are the outbursts at these town hall meetings based on misconceptions, but they are hurting people who really want to understand the bill better. People who show up with valid concerns and questions are never able to get a chance to ask or get an answer to their questions, if they’re able to get in at all.

 
COMMENTS & DISCUSSION (21) COMMENTS
James Bond
Aug. 13, 2009
11:45 AM EDT
That last paragraph is BS.. I have been to two and the questions are great and there are no crazy portesters.. Get the facts straight..

mike
Aug. 13, 2009
11:45 AM EDT
maybe you shoud double xcheck your facts. how many people without healthcare are legal citizens for example and have the right to free health care?

Clayton Smith
Aug. 13, 2009
11:45 AM EDT
Why can't congress understand that the people want to be informed about things that affect their lives. We don't want them to sit there, dream up an idea and say this is how it's going to be. Something this controversial should be taken to the public OPENLY for their reaction. And talk about a fine if you don't sign up? This doesn't sound Kosher.

Michael Gallagher
Aug. 13, 2009
11:45 AM EDT
The first problem with the town hall meeting approach is that the congressional representatives did not want to listen to valid concerns about the bill, they merely wanted to "educate" people about the benefits of the bill. The second problem is that there actually was no single bill to discuss but rather several somewhat contradictory bills, so that the town meeting could only be forums for representatives to spout platitudes that almost everyone could agree with. A third problem is that the congressional reps., themselves, have not read the bill but still intend to "educate" us. Finally, since 78% or more than 200 million Americans are satisfied with their health coverage perhaps an arrogant congress "bit off more than they could chew " .

American
Aug. 13, 2009
11:45 AM EDT
Average Americans can't get into the meetings because the democrats stack the meetings with pro Obama hacks and union members. The politicians never answer the questions but skirt around the issues, so you never get a straight, honest answer. Thus, American citizens are frustrated because the political left wing socialists, don't want to change their already made up minds, yet they want to be able to say, "we listened to our constituents."

sandy
Aug. 13, 2009
11:45 AM EDT
It is about time the American citizens woke up. If only they stay mad when the issue of illegal immigrants resurfaces.

Gony Reath Luot
Aug. 13, 2009
05:15 PM EDT
I have seen Obama administration will give more privilges to American people including the whole world.yes it will be better if the American people can cooperate with their current President Barack Obama. Thanks, Gony Reath

Linda Shuman
Aug. 13, 2009
05:15 PM EDT
If someone would print the truth about the town hall meetings the public would get to know what they are really like. The TEA parties are mostly respectable people, none hired as Obama is doing and represent how the majority of Americans feel about this absurd bill. Print about how the hired Obama purple shirts are attending to strong arm anyone opposing the bill. We are Americans that have a right to speak. The government needs to listen to what the majority thinks.

Faye
Aug. 13, 2009
05:15 PM EDT
What a pile of horse manure. Some of these meetings have had incidents of violence. Violence caused by ACORN and SEIU members. Prior to their appearance on the scene there was no violence. And yes, when approached in a violent manner, people respond in kind. But be honest with yourself as to who is causing the violence....here is a clue....it's not the citizens attending the healthcare meetings. It's the hired guns from the government.

Coy
Aug. 13, 2009
05:15 PM EDT
8 years of liberals calling Bush a Hitler and worse..never covered by the media. Pelosi and other democrat politicians are calling US UNAmerican and accusing US of carrying swastikas. They have called out union goons to intimidate US. And WHO in their right mind goes to get the FACTS at MOVEON.org?

Dottie
Aug. 14, 2009
10:45 AM EDT
Give the ones that want the insurance from the government and the ones that dont want it, pay the insurance all your money, but then when you want the insurance that we have, hopefully you will have to pay more, since all you want to do it fight for the insurance companies. It is called compeition, they have none now, that is why it is so high.

AC Fasola
Aug. 14, 2009
10:45 AM EDT
"Average Americans", as you describe the protesters at these town hall meetings(mostly white, middle-aged, racsist morons) are a bunch of ignorant, irrational lemmings who most likely couldn't read or understand any health care reform bill. They listen to a bunch of propaganda and lies perpetrated by right-wing, religious zealot wackos spouting catch phrases that ignite anger in persons who really don't even know what the words conservative, socialist, etc. even mean. I don't belong to any political party, nor do i agree with most of what either side espouses, their all self-serving jokes. But I have come to believe when I see and listen to these morons protesting at the town halls that "Americans" are absolutely the dumbest individuals on the planet. They are a disgrace!

Helen Wheels
Aug. 14, 2009
10:45 AM EDT
After I lost my corporate job five years ago, and I could find nothing but part-time work, we were without health insurance for 4 1/2 years before I got another job that included health insurance as a benefit. During our 38 years of marriage, this was the first time we were without insurance. It was a real awakening for me. If we'd had insurance a year ago, I can't help but believe that the condition that killed my husband in April, just two months after we got insurance again, would have been detected early, and he would be alive today. If you have insurance and employment it's easy to lack compassion for those who don't. Healthcare in America has been going downhill in the US for decades, starting with hospitals and insurance providers, once non-profits, became profit-based. Insurance companies pay people bonuses for turning down people for care, and my health has suffered because of it. People like my husband are dying because of it. The insurance companies are duping a lot of people with their HealthScare campaign. Go to OpenSecrets.org for an excel spreadsheet showing how many millions of dollars of health insurance lobbyist money has gone to bribe congresscritters in the last few months, to kill a viable and robust public option. Jesus never asked a leper for a copay. He was nonprofit all the way.

Donald B. Clark
Aug. 14, 2009
10:45 AM EDT
The problem with congress ( both parties) is that they have complete lost touch with the people who blindly voted for them to have the PRIVLEDGE TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE. If the american citizens don't wake up and hold our elected official accountable for their misconduct and misrepresentation, then we are all doomed to go the way of all the socialisms world

Ginny
Aug. 14, 2009
10:45 AM EDT
I agree with most of the people have not read this bill but neither has the news media who is covering the story. Americans are getting tired of footing the cost. We already pay for medicade and look how the goverment manages that. When is enough going to be enough. The main priority of this goverment should be to take care of our own people and quit putting good money after bad.By the way for any of you who are interested in the Health Care Bill go to page 16 and read that, then maybe you will understand at least one of the problems.We need to stop giving everything away, Americans have always work hard and fought for what we have and we need to get back to that. God Bless America

Sharon Cornett
Aug. 17, 2009
10:45 AM EDT
Most of the people who are screaming at these meetings are simply misinformed. If they would take the time to actually educate themselves maybe they wouldn't be humiliating themselves this way. Ignorance on parade. Makes me sad to be an American.

Robert Schledwitz
Aug. 17, 2009
10:45 AM EDT
How unique is it on the 40th anniversary of Woodstock we are still a nation of people divided against each other in public forums like town meetings? Perhaps it is just the American way. We were all raised with advertising and scripted news reports after all. For example, I think both Senator Al Franken and Commentator Bill O'Reilly have good and bad points but it is the degree and creativity of their anger that tunes people in, not the content of what they say. Call it the "Jerry Springer Effect" if you will. As for the current debate, I believe health care is a right, not an option, for every American. Just as food, education and housing are. How to pay for it all? Simple. Do away with our Navy. You know, like we did to the horse mounted Calvary which won the west and the wars against the Mexicans, Spanish and Native Americans once they were no longer a match for machine guns and tanks. Let's face it, if a wood fishing boat loaded with explosives in the Red Sea could take out a state of the art billion dollar ship and many crew members, it's time to reconsider surface ships. Nuclear subs are ok though for the time being. More bang for the buck and you can't see them. Peace.

DALE STARNES
Aug. 17, 2009
10:45 AM EDT
OBAMA IS USHERING AMERICA INTO ONE WORLD GOVERMENT AS FAST AS HE CAN. TO ME HE IS ACTUALLY A TRAITOR TO THIS COUNTRY!

Robert Schledwitz
Aug. 18, 2009
10:30 AM EDT
How unique is it on the 40th anniversary of Woodstock we are still a nation of people divided against each other in public forums like town meetings? Perhaps it is just the American way. We were all raised with advertising and scripted news reports after all. For example, I think both Senator Al Franken and Commentator Bill O'Reilly have good and bad points but it is the degree and creativity of their anger that tunes people in, not the content of what they say. Call it the "Jerry Springer Effect" if you will. As for the current debate, I believe health care is a right, not an option, for every American. Just as food, education and housing are. How to pay for it all? Simple. Do away with our Navy. You know, like we did to the horse mounted Calvary which won the west and the wars against the Mexicans, Spanish and Native Americans once they were no longer a match for machine guns and tanks. Let's face it, if a wood fishing boat loaded with explosives in the Red Sea could take out a state of the art billion dollar ship and many crew members, it's time to reconsider surface ships. Nuclear subs are ok though for the time being. More bang for the buck and you can't see them. Peace.

jj
Aug. 18, 2009
10:30 AM EDT
maybe that idiot conyers and the other supporters of this bill should read the bill - from what i've seen the folks are asking very direct questions that require specific responses and are getting none of that from these so called reps. if over 80% of americans are satisfied with their healthcare then why is the govt. injecting itself in their plans? if they want to help those that are uninsured, let's deal with them and what we can do - that won't break the bank - to help those folks.

Ernest M Toseland
Aug. 18, 2009
01:00 PM EDT
Get the Federal goverment out of our health care. States Rights!! The federal goverment should not over step the limited power given it under the constatution. Free enterprise will be the best answer if we could get the federal goverment out entirely. The people trying to educate their congressional reps. They have read this socialist crap unlike most of the reps. I have noted the pro ObamaCare people have printed signs and the anti-ObamaCare have handmade signs now what group is supposed to be the rent a Mob? I hope these feelings will continue and grow until the election. I am dropping my AARP membership today. I am also getting a conceal carry permitt soon. I have never owned a hand gun before but I will now. We must protect our country from the National Socialist(Union)Workers Party. They want the national goverment to control every aspect of our life. Let FREEDOM ring.

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